From supermom to regretful parent, from co-mother to never-mother: motherhood can no longer be captured in a single form. In this third conversation, host Lara Harbers talks to curator Laurie Cluitmans of the Stedelijk Museum about the exhibition Good Mom/Bad Mom , an idiosyncratic and urgent reflection on motherhood, care and emancipation – in images and meaning. 

What does art history say about the image of the mother? And how do contemporary artists respond to that persistent cliché of the 'good mother'? We discuss the political and social significance of motherhood and the images we collectively create of it - and expect of it. About abortion, autonomy, care work and the freedom to be or not to be a mother. An open, curious conversation about parenthood, identity and the power of imagination. Because how free are we really, when it comes to motherhood?